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I think the general consensus is that you should take this all back to the drawing board and give it quite a lot more thought.

Especially the maller, stop hating on amarr <.<

mm.. you could give vexor armour rep bonus drop a mid to low drop a turret and double its drone bonus and drop its drones to 50/100. And do buff its cpu you realise all drone upgrades use lots of cpu and rigs compound it even more by taking away cpu?.

I've already compared the Rupture with the Omen, Thorax and Caracal in terms of damage in this thread. The damage is the same as it is now except with alot more CPU and powergrid and since I've flown both solo I'm very aware of thier strength and weaknesses. The fact you're asking me something you should investigate yourself instead of throwing out random words. Suggest you don't know what you're on about.

Those with sense and experience know that list is correct for the most part. Many of the future damage increases can be graphed now with EFT. You can compare the damage projected and applied of the Omen, Thorax, Caracal and Rupture now with "common setups". Otherwise you can use substatutes like the Osprey Navy Issue or Caracal Navy Issue to get a good idea of what the Bellicose and Caracal will look like.

The rest is just throwing in changes to hit points, velocity, capacitor and other factors. Overall, CCP will be forced to boost Navy Faction cruisers because that's what these new tech 1 cruisers are.

I find it ammusing when someone just randomly brings up velocity without looking @ other factors. A shield-ac-Hurricane is alot faster than a hml-Drake. However, it doesn't matter. There are other factors that make that higher velocity mute. One of those is damage projection and overall hp. Compare a Talos versus a Hurricane etc. A ship that has alot less tank compared to a shield-hurricane, but has insane damage application and projection. That is the same comparison that can be made with the proposed Omen and Rupture. About the only thing that can be said is that a shield-Rupture may escape. I prefer using a armor-Rupture. A shield-Omen will school it provided it can maintain range (nano).

For starters what are these.

That's pretty much been the Gallente drone philosophy ever since the bandwidth introduction. Amarr get low band/big bays to focus on sustainability, and Gallente get high band/small bay to focus on damage. That's what they said when they made the changes. Of course it starts to break down when you look at the Ishtar and Domi. But Amarr don't have comparable ships in those classes, so hard to make a comparison.

Then odds are you are fairly terrible at using drones in PvP. I don't say that meanly or to wave e-peen around. It's just that you need to adjust your tactics. The 75m3 on the Vexor/Myrm is just fine for applying damage. If you are just looking at things from a PvE point of view, then yeah 50m3 works better. But you don't alter a ship so that it's better for PvE.

Tracking isn't so much the issue if you are using 2/2/1 tactics correctly. Travel time however, is an issue. But that is a problem that should only really be cropping up in a PvE situation. In which case, a flight of medium drones works much better. Multiple fast opponents in a PvP situation is a real bad place for a droneboat no matter what drones you use (unless you are sitting away from the action sniping with sentries). Ships have weaknesses. That's one of the weaknesses of a droneboat.

If you want smaller bandwidth with a deep bay, then switch to Amarr. Arbi/Curse/Pilgrim are all good ships. But the Vexor (and currently the Myrm) rock just fine with 75m3. No need to change it.

Yeah I know what you're saying, it's just never going to happen. You want a higher than +10% damage/lvl to drones. Only one ship in the past 6 years has had that, and they realized it was a bad idea and removed the bonus. That was on a Dread. Now you want that kind of bonus on a cruiser? Keep dreaming dude.

Indeed! It seems that I am. Still.... ain't gonna happen.

Are you implying that the tristan is going to be good?

This is part of the problem. With the other weapon systems having previous upgrades / buffs, non bonused lasers are no longer as good as they were in comparison, and many Amarr ships still have a cap bonus just to use it instead of another weapon bonus. Add on top of it how generally poor they are without Scorch crystals and massive cap demand / vulnerability, and you get a weapon group that needs reworking.
I love my lasers, but I would love to be effective in more than 2 colors.